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    Arizona Are we a top 10 team?

    Out of the past 5 games Arizona has played, only one of them has been decisive.

    60-57 W
    58-60 L
    67-65 W
    76-54 W
    66-69 2OTL

    We are missing Brandon Ashely bad right now. My questions for you is whether or not you think this Arizona squad is a top 10 team nationally right now? Where should we rank as a team? What do we need to do to earn a number 1 seed?

    With only a game ahead of UCLA in the PAC12 do we hold on to the pac12?
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    Look at Cuse, they have not been winning by big margins either.

    Wake: 67-57
    Duke: 91-89 OT
    ND: 61-55
    Clem:57-44
    Pitt: 58-56

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    Yes we are. Cuse wins by one at home to unranked NCST. Duke wins by 2 at home to unranked Terps.
    If we could sink FT at 65% we would be undefeated. Last night hurt because we have high standards. I was depressed too, but the sun came up today and it was 89 degrees. We have 6-8 games before March Madness to right the ship.

    Defense is a constant, the offense can come back. SM will coach us back... Elite 8 and take our chances

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    Right now? In a word, no. But I am still a huge Sean Miller fan and, unlike some posters, believe he will retool this team in time to make a run in both Tournaments.

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    Tonight Syracuse 56 NC State 55 at home.

    Originally Posted by UA_in_FL View Post
    Look at Cuse, they have not been winning by big margins either.

    Wake: 67-57
    Duke: 91-89 OT
    ND: 61-55
    Clem:57-44
    Pitt: 58-56
    "If you want what you've never had, you have to do what you've never done." -- Thomas Jefferson

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    There are no elite teams this year now that Brash is done for the year so while Arizona is struggling especially on offense...it's still hard to find 10 teams that are better than Arizona. I think Arizona has the best defense in the entire country so just need to get the offense more efficient and all will be good.

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    Originally Posted by Wildcat Dad View Post
    Yes we are.
    If we could sink FT at 65% we would be undefeated.
    Couldn't agree more. It's as simple as that. And if AG made both free throws who knows what triple OT had in store.

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    Yes, Syracuse could very easily have lost their past 2 games.

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    Until and unless we lose another game, I don't think we should drop below #6.

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    Default Re: Are we a top 10 team?

    Originally Posted by titan4wildcats View Post
    Until and unless we lose another game, I don't think we should drop below #6.
    Agreed. We won't fall below Duke/KS who already have 5 losses.

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    Default Top 10

    Yes we are top 10 with top 5 coach. Without being tested both physically, mentally, emotionally we would have no reason to use the term BEARDDOWN!!!!!!

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    BTFD, run the table, win Pac 12 title, win the Pac 12 tourney, #1 seed in the West, let's see what happens

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    do not compare our competition to 'Cuse competition
    They are playing ranked teams and better teams
    Air-Zona!!!!
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    Cats sos 10, Cuse sos 74

    NCST was not ranked today

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    'Cuse 2014
    Jan 18 #22 Pitt
    Feb 1 #17 Duke
    Feb 12 #25 Pitt
    Feb 22 #8 Duke
    Mar 1 #17 UVA

    Zona 2014
    Played/plays no ranked teams or
    what people would say high competition
    Air-Zona!!!!
    " I'm just a basketball player, I don't really have a true position. I just play hard on every possession " - Derrick Williams

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    Default Re: Are we a top 10 team?

    Originally Posted by Caz View Post
    'Cuse 2014
    Jan 18 #22 Pitt
    Feb 1 #17 Duke
    Feb 12 #25 Pitt
    Feb 22 #8 Duke
    Mar 1 #17 UVA

    Zona 2014
    Played/plays no ranked teams or
    what people would say high competition
    We beat #5, #8, and #15. How is that playing no ranked teams?

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    Originally Posted by Wildcat Dad View Post
    Yes we are. Cuse wins by one at home to unranked NCST. Duke wins by 2 at home to unranked Terps.
    If we could sink FT at 65% we would be undefeated. Last night hurt because we have high standards. I was depressed too, but the sun came up today and it was 89 degrees. We have 6-8 games before March Madness to right the ship.

    Defense is a constant, the offense can come back. SM will coach us back... Elite 8 and take our chances
    We actually were 16-16 from the line against cal. But you're right, I'm really worried our free throws could be our downfall in March. With the way we play offense right now we're not going to be blowing anybody out in the tourney, except (hopefully) our opening game. I'm hoping we get a decent draw so we can cruise to the sweet 16 at least and then have a fighters chance from there. Would be really tough to swallow an early round exit with the way we started the year

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    Yes, we are top 10. But we start to play like we are. I was really sad about the way we lost up in Tempe.

    I had to spend whole day at Tempe today, ugh.. how come they can draw all those horrible things to their union windows?? I hate them and I am very angry with our players for this loss.

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    Originally Posted by anguskahn View Post
    We beat #5, #8, and #15. How is that playing no ranked teams?

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    2014, as I wrote
    and with that we lost to 2 conference games while 'cuse is still undefeated

    Air-Zona!!!!
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    Originally Posted by Caz View Post
    2014, as I wrote
    and with that we lost to 2 conference games while 'cuse is still undefeated

    Debibie downer, LOL

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    Originally Posted by Wildcat Dad View Post
    I was depressed too, but the sun came up today and it was 89 degrees.
    Thanks for rubbing in to those of us who live in the north east......

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    Originally Posted by Wildcat Dad View Post
    I was depressed too, but the sun came up today and it was 89 degrees.
    Thanks for rubbing in to those of us who live in the north east......

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    Originally Posted by KneeGrowMan View Post
    Thanks for rubbing in to those of us who live in the north east......
    I lived in Chicago and Indiana for almost 60 years so I feel your pain, I should have just said I woke up this morning to a new day...

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    We are top 10, but that doesn't matter. Win the conference without imploding down the stretch and we lock up a 1-2 seed in the West, which is really all anyone should care about.

    The conference race just got much more interesting. But we effectively have a 2 game lead over UCLA with 6 to play. Both teams end with 4/6 on the road, although UCLA does have the better schedule.

    If they sweep their road trip and we don't, then I say it's 50/50 from there. Winning the conference is all anyone on the team is worrying about right now. After 12 games they are in great shape to do that.
    "It's all basketball oriented," Aaron Gordon on why he chose Arizona.

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    We have great players and a great coach. Zeus was a terrible free throw shooter last season. He started this season at over 80%. The team needs to get together as a team with the players who shoot great and the coach who shot and still shoots a great percentage from the free throw and share tips with and observe what's going on with the players who are shooting poorly, and talk about it. Those players who are currently shooting worse than they normally do are basically having the same problem with their other scoring shots in the game as well. As I've mentioned before, a large part of that problem is caused by trying TOO hard. You can see the difference in the way they're playing now as opposed to how they played in the first 17 or 18 games. There is no enjoyment in their games. They look EXTREMELY way serious when playing and especially when shooting. When they can find a way to loosen up and just let their shots go, both in game shots and free throws, then the scoring machine part of the Wildcats game will return to the previous level and they will once again dominate their games.

    Recently I heard comments from the half time announcers and or Pac basketball show analysts that a team can't have a great defense and a great offense. What a bunch of whooey! What did the Wildcats have through most of this season?

    Coach Miller has had the Wildcats peaking at the right time of year, every year since he's been here. From what I've read about his time at Xavier, he did the same there. I believe the scoring woes will end soon. Of course the sooner the better. The reason the NBA scouts were coming to the games is that there are several Wildcats who have been playing so well that these scouts really want to come and see in person how good these players are. These players can't produce as good as they have/can without the rest of the team playing as good as they have/do. So instead of the Wildcats trying too hard because of the "Pressure" they need to continue to play their game. They have the skills to attract the attention so just play the game using those same skills and ENJOY it instead of worrying about it.

    When they set their minds in the right direction the Wildcats will continue their march of dominance and rise back up to the top.

    In other words, they are a top ten team now but they will rise back up to be the Alpha team.

    Bear Down Wildcats!

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    Arizona

    If you ask me, we are easily a top 5 team right now.

    We still have the #1 defense in the country adjusted for SoS according to Kenpom. Its not always pretty to watch, but defense wins games and wins in the tourny as everyone knows. The bigger issue is our offensive efficiency does need improvement (it was top 30 plummeting to around 45 ish after Brandon's injury). That plummet happened in just 2-3 games. Right now, Ill just settle for some FT improvement though.

    Olson is going to have a heart attack if we dont convert those FTs.

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    Originally Posted by FourthAndUniversity View Post
    If you ask me, we are easily a top 5 team right now.

    We still have the #1 defense in the country adjusted for SoS according to Kenpom. Its not always pretty to watch, but defense wins games and wins in the tourny as everyone knows. The bigger issue is our offensive efficiency does need improvement (it was top 30 plummeting to around 45 ish after Brandon's injury). That plummet happened in just 2-3 games. Right now, Ill just settle for some FT improvement though.

    Olson is going to have a heart attack if we dont convert those FTs.
    Defense doesn't win in the tourneys all by itself. I've said this many times, but the lowest rated offensive efficient team to win the national title in the past 10 years was UCONN in 2011 and they were 18th. Arizona currently ranks 47th and falling. Virginia is the #2 defense in the nation, so should they be a top 10 team since we're top 5 with the #1? You need a mix of offense and defense to win in the tourney, you can't win being efficient at only one.

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    Our defense is top 2. Our offense probably around the 40-50 area. I say we are a top 15-20 team

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    Clearly the question is ambiguous. "Are we a top 10 team?". Some people are interpreting that to mean "does our resume support us being ranked in the top 10". And others are interpreting that to mean "if we start the season now and everyone's record is 0-0, should we be ranked top 10".

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    Originally Posted by Caz View Post
    'Cuse 2014
    Jan 18 #22 Pitt
    Feb 1 #17 Duke
    Feb 12 #25 Pitt
    Feb 22 #8 Duke
    Mar 1 #17 UVA

    Zona 2014
    Played/plays no ranked teams or
    what people would say high competition
    Pitt is a steaming pile of **** that doesn't deserve to be ranked. UCLA is a better team, without a doubt, but Pitt gets the benefit of the doubt because of their conference. And I'd put ASU and Cal, just to start, above NCST.

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